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Call for Jews to stop calling Jesus a bastard October 7, 2007

Posted by infidelkafirwatch in Uncategorized.

Jew’s calling Jesus a Bastard and the Christians are where?  down the pubs and club celebrating.  Keep it up as Jesus died for your sins, so sin as much as you want and let Jesus pay for it.

Ben Martin – Telegraph.co.uk October 6, 2007

A senior American cardinal has asked Jews to reconsider descriptions of Jesus as a “bastard” in exchange for a softening of traditional Catholic prayers calling for Jews to be converted to Christianity.

The controversial comments, by Cardinal Francis George of the Archdiocese of Chicago, concern a prayer said during Easter celebrations by the small number of parishes or priests who celebrate a particular form of Good Friday mass.

Those version of Good Friday prayers calls for the congregation to pray for Jews to be converted to Christianity.

But Cardinal George said this prayer should be amended to ensure it did not offend Jews.
“I suspect (the amendment) probably will be (made), because the intention is to be sure that our prayers are not offensive to the Jewish people who are our ancestors in the faith,” Cardinal George said in an interview with the National Catholic Reporter.
“We can’t possibly insult them in our liturgy … not that any group has a veto on anybody’s prayers, because you can go through Jewish texts and find material that is offensive to us. But if we’re interested in keeping the dialogue strong, and we have to be, we should be very cautious about any prayer that they find insulting.”

But this should mean that Jews, in turn, consider amending their own religious texts, he said.

“It does work both ways. Maybe this is an opening to say, ‘Would you care to look at some of the Talmudic literature’s description of Jesus as a bastard, and so on, and maybe make a few changes in some of that?'”




1. Tenides - October 13, 2007

“Jew’s calling Jesus a Bastard and the Christians are where? down the pubs and club celebrating.”

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way that many Christians think.

CS Lewis, the great Christian philosopher, said that Jesus was either honest in claiming divinity, or else he was insane or evil. There are not any other logical options.

Jews do not believe in the divinity of Jesus, and therefore, their belief that Jesus was illegitimate is an honest and logical outcome of their religious faith. They held this opinion even during the LIFETIME of Jesus, as evidenced in scripture, and Jesus personally did not coerce non-believers. Jesus reached out to them, but left the decision up to the individual. Christians follow the example of Jesus.

The Christian faith is not contingent upon forcing non-believers to parrot Christian doctrine against their own genuine opinions. The bedrock of Christian faith is a sincere and genuine personal belief.

And, by the way, Muslims also do not believe in the Christian Jesus, because Muslims regard Jesus as a prophet, rather than a member of the Trinity. To Christians, the Muslim Jesus (a human prophet) is just as far from truth as the Jewish Jesus (an illegitimate human).

What is baffling is why you expect Christians to somehow team up with Muslims in “defending” Jesus. You have a different Jesus. You have a different ethic in terms of expecting non-believers to give lip-service to the prophets of your religion.

2. infidelkafirwatch - October 13, 2007

The Muslims have the most accurate information proving that Jesus (peace be upon him) was in fact a true Prophet and not son of God. This can be proven from the Bible it self from DEUT. 18:18.

Yet, in the Bible we find that text have been changed, edited and revised thus reducing its accuracy and credibility as a true religion. The very first book I read and studied was the Bible, over the years and meeting many people I realised that different bibles have different perceptions of the same event. Whereas the Qur’an is the same, the text is the same as it was 1400 years ago and yet can challenge anything no matter what it be.

Muslim’s don’t need Christians and never will, the only link Muslims have with Christianity is Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him).

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